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Post by viking93 on Jul 10, 2012 6:36:20 GMT -6
Agree 100%. My Dad always complained about the dirt basepaths worn in the grass in our backyard from playing stick ball. Mom would remind him that he would miss those dirt paths in his nice yard one day. She was right. We are talking about young girls that we all should try to instill a love of the game. Anyone crazy enough to put up with the parents and volunteer to try and help the girls should be praised for their effort.
Lot of ammo in this thread for GW. Should be fun.
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Post by Ghost Writer on Jul 10, 2012 8:17:04 GMT -6
Phooey is all I can say. First off Coach501, you and I totally disagree. At 12U its Game On. You teach in practice and play to win. My solution to all of this nonsense would be for each player to put up a thousand dollar bond that if they leave or cause commotion they lose it. Also, parents should not be allowed anywhere near the team during games. Watch from a distance. Parents should be forced to take a course on what to expect from this experience and have their daughters skill level evaluated by a disinterested third party. Coaches should distance themselves from parents to the point of just hello and goodbye.
If you want your daughter to get prepared for college play stop acting like a sh@t head. If she is really good most coaches will see that. I have found through my travels that the lesser the player the more trouble they and their family can bring. Coaches need to be blunt with the parents up front so that they know what to expect. Parents, don't put your daughter on a team when you know the coach is an @ss. It wont get better and you will be unhappy.
Finally, stop using the little innocent girl crutch. Like, its about having fun, or the coach is mean, she should learn new positions etc etc. Your kids are tougher than you think. You also want coach to treat them like babies while you scream at them at home. Stop trying to relive your pathetic past through your kid. Let them learn about life on their own. So you think you are going to get back at the coach by causing a mutiny on the team. Go for it because it never works out like you think it will. The coach will survive and you will blame everybody but yourself.
Defender of Coaches Everywhere
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Post by viking93 on Jul 10, 2012 8:34:50 GMT -6
Beautiful! Every coach that sees your $1000 Bond, parents stay away from games and don't cause trouble or lose the money is going HOLY C$@p! THATS A GOOD IDEA!
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Post by smartwater on Jul 10, 2012 8:41:43 GMT -6
Phooey is all I can say. First off Coach501, you and I totally disagree. At 12U its Game On. You teach in practice and play to win. My solution to all of this nonsense would be for each player to put up a thousand dollar bond that if they leave or cause commotion they lose it. Also, parents should not be allowed anywhere near the team during games. Watch from a distance. Parents should be forced to take a course on what to expect from this experience and have their daughters skill level evaluated by a disinterested third party. Coaches should distance themselves from parents to the point of just hello and goodbye. If you want your daughter to get prepared for college play stop acting like a sh@t head. If she is really good most coaches will see that. I have found through my travels that the lesser the player the more trouble they and their family can bring. Coaches need to be blunt with the parents up front so that they know what to expect. Parents, don't put your daughter on a team when you know the coach is an @ss. It wont get better and you will be unhappy. Finally, stop using the little innocent girl crutch. Like, its about having fun, or the coach is mean, she should learn new positions etc etc. Your kids are tougher than you think. You also want coach to treat them like babies while you scream at them at home. Stop trying to relive your pathetic past through your kid. Let them learn about life on their own. So you think you are going to get back at the coach by causing a mutiny on the team. Go for it because it never works out like you think it will. The coach will survive and you will blame everybody but yourself. Defender of Coaches Everywhere As always, the GW comes on and gives everyone a good hard slap of reality.
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Post by Quick Feet on Jul 10, 2012 8:49:45 GMT -6
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Post by jvrl on Jul 10, 2012 9:21:59 GMT -6
And now we all know why Maryland softball talent is so diluted. Every parent who doesn't get their way runs off to start their own team. It's like a huge ponzi scheme. Guess what. You people will never be happy because you don't know the meaning of the word team. You think it means "the supporting cast for my daughter" and that isn't it. But, you keep looking for the team that will fulfill that dream. Good luck. By the way, when you get to high school and college, you can't start your own team. Sorry. Unfortunately, some parents try, although it can get expensive. There was a girl who graduated a couple years ago who pitched for three different public high schools during her four years. And there are several other players whose families moved at least once to get them into a more "desirable" situation. Not to mention a couple who have gone back and forth among public and private high schools. But, as I said, it can get really expensive.
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Post by sbfan914 on Jul 10, 2012 9:50:37 GMT -6
Wow! The Silly season bus steam rolls it's way into Maryland earlier every year. Although I do agree that most parents who openly express their dissatisfaction with their current team are doing so because of a perceived slight of their DD. I do not agree that every parent or new coach is deliberately trying to undermine an existing coach / organization when attempting to start a new team. They may be trying to gauge the interest of others in a different program. If you can't or don't want to travel 3+ hours to join an out of state team, is there a real problem with starting an alternative? As a parent I don't believe you would find fault with this. As a coach of an existing team facing the loss of players, both desirable and maybe not so desirable, it can be perceived as a threat. Either way this board is not an appropriate venue for airing the inner turmoil of any team regardless of the age or level of play.
Maybe a consensus of the existing coaches and their protege could produce a "High" level travel team at each age group to keep Maryland players in state. This would require too much cooperation and some ego deflation to pull off. I'm fairly certain that won't happen in my daughters remaining years, as it didn't happen during our older daughters softball experience. This has been an ages old problem and will be long after our daughters have children starting T-ball.
BTW, how did that Blue & Grey thing work out in this past weekends heat wave?
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Post by softball3dad on Jul 10, 2012 10:39:00 GMT -6
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Post by Quick Feet on Jul 10, 2012 10:48:01 GMT -6
Wow! The Silly season bus steam rolls it's way into Maryland earlier every year. Although I do agree that most parents who openly express their dissatisfaction with their current team are doing so because of a perceived slight of their DD. I do not agree that every parent or new coach is deliberately trying to undermine an existing coach / organization when attempting to start a new team. They may be trying to gauge the interest of others in a different program. If you can't or don't want to travel 3+ hours to join an out of state team, is there a real problem with starting an alternative? As a parent I don't believe you would find fault with this. As a coach of an existing team facing the loss of players, both desirable and maybe not so desirable, it can be perceived as a threat. Either way this board is not an appropriate venue for airing the inner turmoil of any team regardless of the age or level of play. Maybe a consensus of the existing coaches and their protege could produce a "High" level travel team at each age group to keep Maryland players in state. This would require too much cooperation and some ego deflation to pull off. I'm fairly certain that won't happen in my daughters remaining years, as it didn't happen during our older daughters softball experience. This has been an ages old problem and will be long after our daughters have children starting T-ball. BTW, how did that Blue & Grey thing work out in this past weekends heat wave? Ego deflation works both ways. How will a parent feel if their kid isn't on the super team at her age level? Problem continues because they will be p***ed and decide to start their own team cause their little darlin' was robbed. So it won't happen because the parents won't let it happen either.
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Post by The Real Truf on Jul 10, 2012 11:25:50 GMT -6
I was going to welcome "all of the new posters" to the Board ... But since THREE of the User Names comes from the same IP Address, I guess that there really isn't all that many to welcome after all. ENJOY talking to yourself !!!
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Post by dadof7 on Jul 10, 2012 12:01:34 GMT -6
I was going to welcome "all of the new posters" to the Board ... But since THREE of the User Names comes from the same IP Address, I guess that there really isn't all that many to welcome after all. ENJOY talking to yourself !!! That's funny. Maybe they believe that communicating in "3D" is more effective for getting their point accross. Or if your sitting behind a router firewall your only seeing one IP address.
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Post by sbfan914 on Jul 10, 2012 14:02:34 GMT -6
Wow! The Silly season bus steam rolls it's way into Maryland earlier every year. Although I do agree that most parents who openly express their dissatisfaction with their current team are doing so because of a perceived slight of their DD. I do not agree that every parent or new coach is deliberately trying to undermine an existing coach / organization when attempting to start a new team. They may be trying to gauge the interest of others in a different program. If you can't or don't want to travel 3+ hours to join an out of state team, is there a real problem with starting an alternative? As a parent I don't believe you would find fault with this. As a coach of an existing team facing the loss of players, both desirable and maybe not so desirable, it can be perceived as a threat. Either way this board is not an appropriate venue for airing the inner turmoil of any team regardless of the age or level of play. Maybe a consensus of the existing coaches and their protege could produce a "High" level travel team at each age group to keep Maryland players in state. This would require too much cooperation and some ego deflation to pull off. I'm fairly certain that won't happen in my daughters remaining years, as it didn't happen during our older daughters softball experience. This has been an ages old problem and will be long after our daughters have children starting T-ball. BTW, how did that Blue & Grey thing work out in this past weekends heat wave? Ego deflation works both ways. How will a parent feel if their kid isn't on the super team at her age level? Problem continues because they will be p***ed and decide to start their own team cause their little darlin' was robbed. So it won't happen because the parents won't let it happen either. As I wrote that, with tongue in cheek, I thought it might elicit this type response. However, it doesn't invalidate my point. With the coach of all coaches, whoever is annointed, leading the "Super Team" and deciding who plays and who doesn't there could be no doubt if your daughter isn't selected. It may be the harsh reality, but no doubt she isn't ready to play at that level. Drawing 13 to 14 kids into each super team would open up room on the existing teams for all the DD's and their unrealistic parents to complain among themselves. You just have to hope you aren't left behind to coach one of the other teams.
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Post by Quick Feet on Jul 10, 2012 14:23:00 GMT -6
Ego deflation works both ways. How will a parent feel if their kid isn't on the super team at her age level? Problem continues because they will be p***ed and decide to start their own team cause their little darlin' was robbed. So it won't happen because the parents won't let it happen either. As I wrote that, with tongue in cheek, I thought it might elicit this type response. However, it doesn't invalidate my point. With the coach of all coaches, whoever is annointed, leading the "Super Team" and deciding who plays and who doesn't there could be no doubt if your daughter isn't selected. It may be the harsh reality, but no doubt she isn't ready to play at that level. Drawing 13 to 14 kids into each super team would open up room on the existing teams for all the DD's and their unrealistic parents to complain among themselves. You just have to hope you aren't left behind to coach one of the other teams. When you have a chance, take a look at the Team Maryland Baseball selections each spring and then go on the Baltimore Sun message board and read the ton of messages about how unfair, stupid, biased, and downright wrong the selections are because they left this kid off, that kid off. Those coaches are respected in the baseball community and yet doubt is all over the place. By the way, who gets to pick the super coach?
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Post by letemfly on Jul 10, 2012 14:38:36 GMT -6
Well of course super coach will be some failed college coach that will take my daughter and make her the greatest thing since sliced bread. Oh but I am scared. If she likes this coach she may play on the same team two years in a row and I may have to shut my mouth and not talk bad about all the other parents and their kids....... Sorry just writing what I think goes through alot of these parents minds.
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Post by The Real Truf on Jul 10, 2012 16:10:30 GMT -6
lmfao ... what a joke !!! Of course sbfan914 fully expects his superstar kid to be on this team. Then he can puff out his chest and walk around with his airhorn blowing off at all the games wherever he goes. The rest of the pathetic players and parents will suck it up because they know they don't belong on the team with her. All hail the great superteam !!!
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