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Post by heavy on Dec 8, 2011 6:32:18 GMT -6
Now that they can wear metal cleats let's push to get rid of ITB in high school games
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Post by The Real Truf on Dec 8, 2011 9:37:56 GMT -6
It is definite metal spikes are allowed in Maryland for high school play this year. Really Maybe now they will allow pitchers to throw side arm !!!
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Post by Drop Ball on Dec 8, 2011 11:45:39 GMT -6
Now that they can wear metal cleats let's push to get rid of ITB in high school games I'm sure the 'metal cleats' will not end up being a big safety issue. You would sure get my vote to do away with the ITB. Hate it!
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Post by heavy on Dec 8, 2011 12:48:10 GMT -6
It is definite metal spikes are allowed in Maryland for high school play this year. Really Maybe now they will allow pitchers to throw side arm !!! C'Mon...we all know that "sidearm" rule is out dated.. you can't ask modern pitchers to follow such rules... ;D
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Post by The Real Truf on Dec 8, 2011 17:48:20 GMT -6
Really Maybe now they will allow pitchers to throw side arm !!! C'Mon...we all know that "sidearm" rule is out dated.. you can't ask modern pitchers to follow such rules... ;D Do you own a race car
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Post by surfishin on Dec 9, 2011 11:39:18 GMT -6
I love ITB!
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Post by LSL Dad on Dec 9, 2011 14:04:55 GMT -6
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Post by The Real Truf on Dec 9, 2011 16:32:38 GMT -6
Yeah ... gets him home for dinner earlier !!!
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Post by surfishin on Dec 10, 2011 4:40:19 GMT -6
OK, I'll ask the dumb question (seems like I do that alot); Why not ITB? What's the issues?
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Post by The Real Truf on Dec 10, 2011 7:16:09 GMT -6
OK, I'll ask the dumb question (seems like I do that alot); Why not ITB? What's the issues?Better question is ... Why use it? It was a "made-up thing" to move games along to fit more games into a "time frame". Good thing, I guess, when you're playing multiple games, not necessary when playing one or two. Let the players decide the game, not a rule that has nothing to do with the game but to save some time. Why not just put a clock on the game and forget it ...
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Post by smartwater on Dec 10, 2011 7:59:24 GMT -6
I am not a fan of ITB. However, I understand that in high school facilities where they don't have lights, letting a game go extra innings can be a problem, ITB might be the best way to get a winner.
One of the problems I see with ITB is that many times the catcher becomes the pivotal player. I have seen so many ITB games ended with passed balls. It's not that a regular extra innings game couldn't end the same way, but at least in an extra inning game, a team has to get base runners on to win. At least it is more of a team win ( or loss) in extra innings.
JMO.
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Post by heavy on Dec 10, 2011 10:11:07 GMT -6
My problem with ITB is that many times you have 2 pitchers that are dominating a game. They allow very few if any baseruners during the 1st 7 innings. Now you put a runner on 2nd with no one out to decide a game. Let the players decide the game not a made up rule. My suggestion would be to play at least 2 extra innings maybe 3. Then go to ITB if you have to.
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Post by The Real Truf on Dec 10, 2011 10:31:47 GMT -6
There has to be something wrong with a rule that a pitcher could throw a "perfect game" and lose ... that simple !!!
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Post by Ghost Writer on Dec 10, 2011 14:13:25 GMT -6
The GW is not a fan of the ITB. Not sure I agree with Smartwater's reasoning about the passed ball business. Catchers have the possibility of passed balls at all stages of the game. It would not be peculiar to the ITB scenario. It's sole purpose is to artificially end a game sooner. I agree with Heavy, if you are going to use it, it may as well be after 10 or 12 innings when it is clear that both sides are not going to score and there cannot be a tie. Generally the only time it would be warranted is when there are two lights out pitchers going at each other. That rarely happens so why jump into the ITB in the eighth inning just because the score is tied. Defender of the Board
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Post by smartwater on Dec 10, 2011 15:21:10 GMT -6
I guess the point is that it is to artificially end the game and that just doesn't seem right. Yes, catcher's give up passed balls at any point in a game, but when the offense gets a freebie runner on second base I feel it puts on a little more pressure on the catcher ( and the pitcher) for that matter.
The offense didn't get a hit to get her there, the pitcher didn't walk her or hit her, she just got put there. Again, just my opinion. Could be my mixed up, other side of the bridge way of looking at things!
I say do it like colleges do. Let the players determine the game.
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